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Users browsing this forum: Google [Bot] and 0 guests. Style created by spyka. Posted: Sat Feb 23, pm. I'm not sure why no one mentioned Pyramidos on my topic "Self-Initiation", but anyways, I found what I was looking for.

I do have some questions, though: 1. I need some validation on this Is this the correct word? What does it mean where it says Rubric as before? The part "He is slain by the Sword", how is this performed? Parts where it says "Bar in direction ", what is meant by this? I'm not sure why no one mentioned Pyramidos on my topic "Self-Initiation". I edited your post because, though you didn't have it quite right, you posted too much information for a matter that is held deeply secret.

Tat word is never communicated except to a Neophyte of A. People can, of course, research and investigate on their own, but this forum will not be party to its disclosure.

No personal slap on you, Miles. I'll add that if you're not working within a particular Mystery System, there is probably no need for you to know that particular word - you can create your own formula that serves you in that step. Miles wrote:. Posted: Sun Feb 24, am. I think I'll just wait. Posted: Fri Mar 08, pm.

Page 1 of 1. Previous topic Next topic. Starry Soul. Miles wrote: I'm not sure why no one mentioned Pyramidos on my topic "Self-Initiation" Probably because it's no guarantee of success whatever that may be and is not the same as Throa. I think you got a pretty good answer there. Jim Eshelman. Miles wrote: 2. There is room for interpretation on this. If you are looking at this particular form of the ritual, you should know that the John St.

John diary is, in part, the record of his developing this particular ritual. There are also comments on similar dance styles in the essay "Energized Enthusiasm. It means to repeat a section that was previously in the rubric i.

Essentially "repeat as before. It really helps to know the G. Neophyte ritual inside and out to get the most of this one. The specific thing here is the two lines below, with the purifying cutting and consecrating oiling actions that precede them. The Lustral Water! The Fire Informing! Quote: 4. I'd probably have to show you. My advice if you're working outside of a particular Order or tradition is to figure out exactly what the underlying behind the scenes, whether symbolic or actual thing is that is done at this point, and come up with a working interprtetation.

This means one thing if there is an initiating officer. If there isn't, then you have to interpolate a replacement. Sometimes this might be a physical action, sometimes a result.

Considerable practice of the first meditation in Liber HHH, to the point of success, makes it clearer; but this is backwards, since, in the system from which these emerge, one underwent the physical initation in one grade, and then practiced the deeper, inner meaning of it, from HHH, in a later grade.

Nonetheless, it's a resource for you. If you do this part of the ritual correctly, you very likely will discover after one to a dozen repetitions what is involved. You have 22 opportunuities to be hurled into the depths of despair, worthlessness, and emptiness, and then uplifted even exalted afterwards - each cycle of the 22 being stronger and more extreme than the prior one - until,on the last cycle, "He is slain by the Sword" at the accusation and "raised erect" by the response.

Perhaps that will help some? Quote: 5. The reference is to something that happens in that ritual, which is essentially what happens in the Golden Dawn Neophyte ritual where the circumambulating candidate is barred blocked at specific points by one of the officers. When working without officers, you have to make adaptations for this. For the no-officers option, understand that Crowley used the Opening to establish astral forms of the three officers and held them active and alive through his imagination for the entire course of the operation.

His experience, then, would have been that these forces stop him in his tracks. They each represent a particular weakness in himself that is blocking him - fear, grief, the noise of the intellect, and his prior historic vision of himself, for example.

In the Greek-themed original, where this ritual is the story of Persephone journeying through the underworld, they were, respectively, the fear from the initial confrontation by Hades, the grief of her mother Demeter at the loss and separation, the intellect symbolized by Hermes, and her own prior pre-pubertal image which, once surrendered, allows her to turn and walk, by choice, back into Hell to become its queen.

Yours in L. Miles wrote: Ughh Haha - I did not mention the ritual as that is the normal reaction. It is pretty hard core, and I think JIm made the best point : You are working backwards. I sung! You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot post attachments in this forum.


Liber DCLXXI vel Pyramidos

If so what was your impression of the results. I'm bumping this thread and am going to digress for a moment from its orignial intent to ask a question of the forum about theory relating to Liber Pyramidos. In many of the commentaries in the public domain this ceremony is described not only as self-initiatory but also solitary. I'm proposing that these commentaries don't take into account the alternate possibility that the ceremony has other participants. In John St. John, Crowley descibes the creation of the ceremony and directly, and indirectly, the general performance. Within the text, there does seem to be allusion to Maryt participating in a rite with Crowley.



Edited from a holograph MSS in posession of Dr. Kowal of 59 Chene Street. Detroit Michigan, with reference to other sources. John St. John is the diary of a magical retirement undertaken by A.


Weiser Antiquarian

The manuscript reproduction in The Equinox IV The record called John St. John in The Equinox I The reason I created this version was simply that all of the online versions that I could find were in direct conflict with the manuscript. I thus compiled this from the above sources and interspersed O.

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